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WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES AMONG THE VARIOUS SAXON MATH TUTORIALS ON THE MARKET TODAY?
While at Home School Conventions, I am repeatedly asked by Homeschool Educators to explain to them the difference between the "DIVE" CDs, the "Saxon Teacher" CDs, the "Teaching Tapes Technology" DVD series, and the DVD series "MASTERING ALGEBRA, John Saxon's Way," taught by Art Reed. That is an excellent question because some companies confuse Homeschool Educators when they advertise their CDs as "video" products when in fact they are not videos, but only CDs containing a graphic presentation with audio (called a whiteboard presentation). The abbreviation DVD stands for "Digital Video Disc." The DVDs are "video" products that will work on a computer (either a PC or MAC) or on a television DVD player. The CD products however, are not "videos." They will only work on a computer. They cannot be viewed on a television using a DVD player. Basically, here are the differences among them: DIVE CD: The product covers John Saxon's math books from Math 54 through Calculus. Each level textbook has a single CD containing instruction corresponding to each individual lesson in that textbook. The presentation is a whiteboard presentation which means there is no teacher to watch at the board. The student hears the voice in the background and watches writing appear on the screen. The CD will not work in a television DVD player because it is not a true "Digital Video Disc," but rather a graphic presentation with audio (a white board presentation). The product will not work on a television DVD player. As a CD, it is restricted to being played only on a computer. Each individual CD costs $50.00 plus shipping. They are available from Math 54 through calculus. SAXON TEACHER CDs: The product supports John Saxon's math books from Math 54 through Advanced Mathematics. Similar to the DIVE CD, the Saxon Teacher CD is a graphic whiteboard presentation which means there is no one to watch presenting the material. The student hears the voice in the background as the writing appears on the board. The individual in each of the individual series of CDs goes over every problem in the textbook and the individual problems on the tests as well, which is why there are four or more CDs to this product as opposed to the single CD sold by DIVE. These CD graphic "audio" solutions cost about $97.35 (plus shipping and handling). There is also a printed paper booklet version of the solutions for each of the daily problems sold by the company as well. The printed version is titled "Solutions Manual" (which contains the same printed information as the more expensive CD). The printed Solutions Manual sells for between $27.00 for the new Math 54 course to $45.00 for the Advanced Mathematics course. If you have purchased the new soft cover editions of Math 54, 65, 76 or 87, the solutions manuals are included in the price of the Homeschool Kit for these four courses. These CDs are not "videos" and they can only be used on a computer. They cannot be viewed on a television set using a DVD player. TEACHING TAPE TECHNOLOGY DVDs: The product is a DVD "video" set of lessons which means they can be used on either a television or computer DVD player. The entire series covers Math 54 through Calculus. As advertised by the company, the individual lessons are taught by a state certified math teacher. The individual series for a particular math book in the upper level math series sell for anywhere from $175 for the Math 54 series to $200 for the Algebra 1/2 series to $245 for the Calculus series. The calculus series requires the first edition of calculus. Each DVD series for a specific textbook contains from fourteen to twenty individual DVD discs. The teacher on these videos goes over one or more of the sample and practice problems from each lesson. Unlike the DIVE CD and Saxon Teacher CD, these are DVD "digital video disc" presentations and they will work on either a television or computer DVD player. MASTERING ALGEBRA "John Saxon's Way" taught by Art Reed DVDs: This product is also a DVD "video" presentation which means the DVDs will work on both a computer as well as a television DVD player. This capability would enable several students or a group of home school students to watch together, on a single television set, as they would in a regular math or CO-OP classroom. Each series is a video tutorial of every lesson in the book. The concepts of every lesson are taught by an experienced Saxon math teacher with over twelve years teaching experience using Saxon Math books in a rural public classroom. The examples used on the board are not those already explained in the textbook, but created by the teacher to enable the student to master the concept as opposed to memorizing the steps used in solving the sample problem shown in the textbook. Students see an experienced Saxon math teacher at the board teaching the concepts contained in that lesson. There are ten to twelve individual DVDs in each of the DVD series which run from Math 76 through the first twenty-five lessons of the calculus textbook (covering limits of functions and derivatives). The Advanced Mathematics course is taught in a two year presentation awarding credit for a full year of geometry as well as providing semester credits for both trigonometry and pre-calculus. Each of the seven individual DVD tutorial series sells for $49.95 (This price includes free shipping anywhere within the USA and its territories, including APO and FPO addresses). Before you buy any of these products, sit down with your student and look at each of the samples provided by the companies on their websites. Make sure the student will be able to work with the instructor and the material as they are presented. Here are the four websites: diveintomath.com; saxonhomeschool.com; teachingtape.com or usingsaxon.com For more information on using these products, please read my April and July 2010 Newsletters.
When John Saxon published his original series of math textbooks, they were designed to be taken in order from Math 54 to Math 65, followed by Math 76, then Math 87, then Algebra 1/2, then on to Algebra 1, then Algebra 2, followed by Advanced Mathematics (which, coupled with Algebra 2, gave the high school geometry and trigonometry credits) culminating with the calculus textbook for some students. The books were not originally intended to be "grade" oriented textbooks, but were intended to be taken in sequential order based upon a student's knowledge and capabilities without regard to the student's grade level. But schools and homeschool educators quickly assigned Math 54 to the fourth grade level, Math 65 to the fifth grade level, Math 76 to the sixth grade, and Math 87 to the seventh grade level to be followed by the pre-algebra course titled Algebra 1/2. When the new third edition of Math 76 came out in the summer of 1997, it was much stronger academically than its predecessor, the older second edition textbook. It did not take long for confusion to develop around which textbooks were now the correct editions to be used and what the correct sequencing would be. In the thousands of telephone calls I received over the years I served as Saxon Publishers' Homeschool Curriculum Director for Math 76 through calculus, the question that arose most often among classroom teachers as well as Homeschool educators was whether the student should go from the new stronger Math 76 book to Math 87 or to Algebra as both the Math 87 and the Algebra 1/2 textbooks appeared to contain basically the same material. Adding to the confusion, after John Saxon's death, was the fact that the new soft cover third edition of Math 87 had the title changed to read Math 8/7 'with pre-algebra.'
WITH THE NEWER EDITIONS WILL RESULT IN FRUSTRATION OR FAILURE FOR THE STUDENT. editions is the same) editions is the same) Advanced Mathematics: Use only the 2nd Edition: (Lesson reference numbers are found in Calculus: Either the 1st or 2nd Edition will work. However, if the student uses my DVD tutorials, they will need the 2nd Edition textbook. Math 87: Record "Pre-Algebra."(If student must also take Algebra 1/2, then use "Seventh Grade Math") Algebra 1 & Algebra 2: Self explanatory. only complete the first 60 - 70 lessons of that textbook. Record "Trigonometry and Pre-calculus" (1 credit) if they have completed the entirety of the Advanced mathematics textbook. Under no circumstances should you record the title "Advanced Mathematics" on the student's transcript as the colleges and universities will not know what math this course contains, and they will ask you for a syllabus for the course.
HOW TO SUCESSFULLY USE JOHN SAXON'S MATH BOOKS FROM MATH 54 THROUGH CALCULUS AND PHYSICS (PART III)
Here is the final series describing situations I have encountered these past three decades while teaching Saxon in a rural high school as well as providing curriculum advice to homeschool educators. As with the previous two parts of the series, I have added my thoughts about why you want to avoid them:
Since there are only 125 lessons in the textbook, it seems reasonable to assume this is possible. he will have no trouble in this book either. The book has fewer lessons than the Algebra 2 book has. Besides, he is a junior this year and we want him to be in calculus before he graduates from high school." tougher than any college algebra textbook I have ever encountered. The daily assignments in this book are not impossible, but they are time consuming and can take most math students more than several hours each evening to complete the thirty problems. This generally results in students doing just doing the odd or even numbered problems to get through the lessons. I must have said this a thousand times "Calculus is easy!" Students fail calculus not because of the calculus, but because they do not understand the algebra. Speeding through the Saxon Advanced Mathematics textbook by taking shortcuts does not allow the student the ability to master the advanced concepts of algebra and trigonometry to be successful in calculus. And if the only argument is that the student will not take calculus in high school, then what is the rush? The DVD tutorial series for the second edition of John's Advanced Mathematics book that I have prepared allows students three different choices based upon their needs and capabilities. a) They can follow my advice and take the course in two years (doing a lesson every two days). They can then gain credit for the first academic year for the course of "Geometry w/Advanced Algebra," with a first semester credit for Trigonometry and a second semester credit for Pre-calculus in their second academic year. - or - b) They can take the course in three semesters. Their first semester credit would be titled Geometry, followed by a second semester credit for Trigonometry with Advanced Algebra; ending with a third semester credit for Pre-calculus. - or - Advanced Mathematics book in a single school year gaining credit for a full year of Geometry along with a semester credit for Trigonometry w/Advanced Algebra. In all the years that I taught the subject, I only had one student who was able to complete the entire Advanced Math course of 125 lessons in a single school year - with a test average above ninety percent - and she was a National Merit Scholar whose father taught mathematics with me at the local university. The specific details of how the transcript is recorded are covered in my book, but if you have any questions regarding your son or daughters high school transcript, please feel free to send me an email.
lacking a solid base in algebra and a basic knowledge of trigonometry will find that taking calculus at any level will be very difficult, if not impossible. way we can accomplish that is to have him speed through the Saxon Algebra 2 and Advanced Mathematics book to finish them by the end of his juni or year. He may even have to use the summer months for math as well." in high school, whether at home or at a local community college, I would strongly recommend that they enroll in calculus I as a freshman at the university or college they choose to attend for several reasons. encompassing derivatives) they can enjoy a solid five hours of "A" on their transcript for their first five hours of math as a freshman. They can also make some nice extra money tutoring their less fortunate classmates.
will see much more as they sit back and "understand" what the professor is talking about. They might even learn something they never fathomed in the high school textbook they went through.
what kind of student they are. That perception by the professor makes a big difference should they encounter difficulties later in their second semester of calculus II (usually through integrals). Finishing John Saxon's second edition of Advanced Mathematics at a pace that allows the student to grasp all of the material in that textbook without being frustrated or discouraged, is paramount to their success in calculus at the college or university level.
that a student has received a well rounded math background, states that require three or more math courses require that geometry be recorded on a students high school transcript, along with algebra 1, algebra 2, trigonometry, etc. RATIONALE: "It is too difficult for high school students to learn both algebra and geometry at the same time. My son did just fine in the Saxon Algebra 1 textbook. However, he is only on lesson 35 in the Saxon Algebra 2 book, and he is already struggling." - or their rationale may be - "I have been told by other home school parents that there are no two-column proofs in John Saxons Algebra 2 textbook."
very first test. This happened because they did not realize the book covered so much geometry review from the algebra 1 text, as well as several key new concepts taught early in the Algebra 2 text. They quickly recovered and went on to master both the algebra and the geometry concepts. From my experiences, most students who encountered difficulty early in John Saxon's Algebra 2 textbook did so - not because they did not understand the geometry being introduced - but because their previous experiences with the Saxon Algebra 1 course did not result in mastery of the math concepts necessary to handle the more complicated algebra concepts introduced early in the Algebra 2 textbook. I would not recommend students attempt John Saxon's Algebra 2 math book if they have done any one or more of the following:
then only did the odd or even numbered problems from each lesson.
tests in the Algebra 1 textbook (not counting partial credit).
HOW TO SUCESSFULLY USE JOHN SAXON'S MATH BOOKS FROM MATH 54 THROUGH CALCULUS AND PHYSICS (PART II) As I promised last month here are several more of the common misuses I have encountered during the past three decades of teaching and providing curriculum advice to homeschool educators. I have added my thoughts about why you want to avoid them:
student to do just the odd or even problems in each daily lesson may appear to save time, but it creates a false sense of mastery of the concepts.
saves us valuable time by doing just one of the pair. Besides, since they both cover the same concept, why take the extra time doing both of them?" FACT: The reason there are pairs of each of the fifteen or so concepts found in the daily assignments is because each of the problems in each pair is different from the other. While both problems in each pair address the same concept, they are different in their approach to presenting that concept. one goes about presenting the concept one way while the second one approaches the concept from a totally different perspective. Doing both of them gives the student a broader basis for understanding the concept and prevents the student from memorizing a particular procedure rather than mastering the concept based upon solving the two different formats or procedures. Whenever I receive an email from a homeschool educator or student, and they need help with solving a particular problem on one of the tests remarking that they never saw this test question in any of their daily work, I can tell that they have been doing either just the "odds" or the "evens" in their daily work because this test question resembled an approach to the concept that was contained in the set they never did. Additionally, doing only half of the daily assignment restricts the student's ability to more quickly and easily master the concepts. Doing two a day for fourteen days increases the students ability to more quickly master those concepts than doing just one a day for that same period of time.
minutes to complete the daily assignment of thirty problems if their grade is based upon their weekly test scores and not upon their daily homework. The "C" student should complete the daily assignment of thirty problems in about ninety minutes. The additional time above the normal fifty minutes is usually the result of the "C" student having to look up formulas or concepts that might not have yet been mastered. This is why I recommend students use "formula cards."
looking for a formula to make sure they have it correctly recorded. The details on how to implement using these cards is explained in detail on page 94 of my book. If you have not yet acquired that book, you can find information on how to make and use them in my September 2011 Newsletter.
to do two or three lessons a day believing this will allow them to complete the course faster.
junior year. The only way he can do that is to finish the Algebra 2 book in six rather than nine months. Besides, he told me that he already knows how to do most of the material from the previous Algebra 1 book."
would use the analogy of eating one's daily meals. Why not just eat once or twice a week to save time preparing and eating three meals each day? Not to mention the time saved doing all those dishes. The best way I know to answer both of these questions is to remind the reader that our bodies will not allow us to implement such a time saving methodology any more than our brains will allow us to absorb the new math concepts by doing multiple lessons at one sitting.
tests to allow another lesson to be taken, or taking a lesson on a test day. All of these processes were attempted solely to speed up completing the textbook. Students who failed calculus did so, not because they did not understand the language and concepts of calculus, but because they did not sufficiently master the algebra.
with students doing something they are familiar with to allow mastery as well as confidence to take over? Why should they become frustrated with their current material because they "rushed" through the previous prerequisite math course?
one of them in an attempt to speed through the textbook (any math book) results in frustration or failure as the student progresses through the higher levels of mathematics. I recall my college calculus professor filling the blackboard with a calculus problem and at the end, he struck the board with the chalk, turned and said "And the rest is just algebra." To the dismay of the vast majority of students in the classroom - that was the part they did not understand and could not perform. When I took calculus in college, more than half of my class dropped out of their first semester of calculus within weeks of starting the course, because their algebra backgrounds were weak.
Algebra 1 or Algebra 2 because you have found the curriculum you were previously using was not preparing your child for the ACT or SAT and you wanted them to be more challenged.
using, while excellent in the lower grades, did not adequately prepare our son and daughter for the more advanced math concepts. We needed a stronger more challenging math curriculum, so we switched to Saxon algebra 1."
math curriculum attempts to bring different math concepts into their curriculum at different levels. Constantly moving from one math curriculum to another - looking for the perfect math book - creates "mathematical holes" in the students' math background. It also creates a higher level of frustration for these students because, rather than concentrating on learning the mathematics, they must concentrate on what the new textbook's system of presentation is and spend valuable time trying to analyze the new format, method of presentation, test schedule, etc.
its excellence at these levels of mathematics, I would strongly recommend that you start with the Math 76, 3rd or 4th Ed textbook. The cumulative nature of the Saxon Math textbooks requires a solid background in the basics of fractions, decimals and percentages. All of these basics, together with the necessary prerequisites for success in pre- algebra or algebra 1 are covered in Saxon's Math 76, 3rd or 4th Edition textbook. This math textbook is what I refer to as the "HINGE TEXTBOOK" in the Saxon math curriculum. Successful completion of this book will take care of any "Math Holes" that might have developed from the math curriculum you were using in grades K - 5.
Saxon algebra textbook (a pre-algebra course). Should students encounter difficulty in the latter part of the Math 76 text, they can move to the Saxon Math 87, 2nd or 3rd Ed and, upon successful completion of that book, move either to the Algebra 1/2 or to the Algebra 1 course depending on how strong their last 4 or 5 test scores were.
Yes, some students have been successful entering the Saxon curriculum at either the Algebra 1 or the Algebra 2 levels, but the number of failures because of weak math backgrounds from using other curriculums, roughly exceeds the number of successes by hundreds! *************************************************** As I mentioned last month, there will always be exceptions that justify the rule. However, just because one parent tells you their child did any one or all of the above, and had no trouble with their advanced math course, does not mean you should also attempt it with your child. That parent might also not have told you that:
more difficulty and frustration or failure with the Saxon Advanced Mathematics course. - or -
- or - university because they had received a low score on the university's math entrance exam. For those readers who do not have a copy of my book, please read my February 2010 news article for information that will help you select the correct level and edition of John Saxon's math books. These editions will remain excellent math textbooks for many more decades.
HOW TO SUCESSFULLY USE JOHN SAXON'S MATH BOOKS FROM MATH 54 THROUGH CALCULUS AND PHYSICS (Part I) Both homeschool educators as well as public and private school administrators have asked me "Why do John Saxon's math books require special handling?" Another question I am also frequently asked by them is "If John Saxon's math books require special instructions to use them successfully, why would we want to use them?" Before the end of this newsletter, I hope to be able to answer both of these questions to your satisfaction. There is nothing "magic" about John Saxon's math books. They were published as a series of math textbooks to be taken sequentially. Math 54 followed by Math 65, and then Math 76, followed by either Math 87 or Algebra 1/2 (John's pre-algebra book), then algebra 1, etc. While other publishers were "dumbing-down" the content of their new math books, John Saxon was publishing his new editions with stronger, more challenging content. Homeschool families, attempting to save money by buying older used Saxon Math books and inter-mingling them with the newer editions were unaware that the older out-of-print editions were often incompatible with these newer, more challenging editions. The same problem developed in the public and private school sector adding to the confusion about the difficulty of John's math books. For example, a student using the old first or second edition of Math 76 would experience a great deal of difficulty entering the newer second or third editions of Math 87. This difficulty arose because the content in the outdated first or second editions of Math 76 was about the same as that of the material covered in the newer editions of Math 65 (the book following Math 54 and preceding Math 76). Jumping from the outdated older edition of Math 76 to the newer editions of either Math 87 or algebra 1/2 would ultimately result in frustration or even failure for most, if not all, of the students who attempted this. Many homeschool educators and administrators were also unaware that when finishing a Saxon math book, they were not to use the Saxon placement test to determine the student's next book in the Saxon series. The Saxon placement test was designed to assist in initially placing non-Saxon math students into the correct entry level Saxon math book. The test was not designed to show parents what the student already knew, it was designed to find out what the student did not know. Students taking the placement test, who are already using a Saxon math book, receive unusually high "false" placement test scores. These test results may recommend a book one or even two levels higher than the level book being used by the student (e.g. from their current Math 65 textbook to the Math 87 textbook). By far, the problems homeschool educators as well as classroom teachers encounter using - or shall I say misusing - John's math books are not all that difficult to correct. However, when these "short-cuts" are taken, the resulting repercussions are not at first easily noticed. Later in the course, when the student begins to encounter difficulty with their daily assignments - in any level of Saxon math books - the parent or teacher assumes that the student is unable to handle the work and determines that the student is not learning because the book is too difficult for the student. Here are three of the most common misuses that I have encountered literally hundreds of times during these past twenty years of teaching and providing curriculum advice to home school educators: 1) NOT FINISHING THE ENTIRETY OF THE TEXTBOOK: Not requiring the student to finish the entirety of one book before moving on to the next book in the sequence.
the last lessons of the book we just finished, so why repeat it"?
review assumes the student has already encountered the simpler version in the previous text. The review concepts in the new book are more challenging than the introductory ones they skipped in the previous book. This does not initially appear to create a problem until the student gets to about lesson thirty or so in the book, and by then both the parent and the student have gotten so far into the new book that they do not attribute the student's problem to be the result of not finishing the previous textbook. They start to think the material is too difficult to process correctly and do not see the error of their having skipped the last twenty to thirty or so lessons in the previous book. They now fault the excessive difficulty of the current textbook as the reason the student is failing. Students should always finish the entirety of every Saxon math textbook! I realize that all students are not alike, so if as you're reading this article and you are already encountered this particular phenomenon with your child, there are several steps you can take to satisfactorily solve the problem without harming the child's progress or self-esteem. So that we can find the correct solution, please email me and include your telephone number and I will call you that same day - on my dime! ********************************************** 2) MISUSE OF THE SAXON PLACEMENT TEST: Skipping one of the books in the sequence (e.g. going from Math 54 to Math 76) because the "Saxon Placement Test" results clearly showed the student could easily handle the Math 76 material. RATIONALE: "He even got some of the Math 87 level questions correct. Besides, we had him look at the material in the Math 65 book and he said that he already knew that material, so why bother doing the same concepts again."
math students into the correct level math book. It was designed to see what the student had not yet encountered or mastered. It was not designed to find out what the student already knew. Saxon students who take the Saxon placement test receive unusually high "false" test scores. The only way to determine if the student is ready for the next level math book is to evaluate their last four or five tests in their current Saxon math book to determine whether or not they have mastered the required concepts to be successful in the next level book. The brain of young students cannot decipher the difference between recognizing something and being able to provide solutions to the problems dealing with those concepts. So when they thumb through a book and say "I know how to do this" what they really mean is "I recognize this." Recognition of a concept or process does not reflect mastery. ********************************************* 3) USING DAILY HOMEWORK TO DETERMINE A STUDENT'S GRADE: Skipping the weekly tests and using the student's daily assignments to determine their grade for the course reflects memory rather than mastery of the material.
not test well, so I use the daily assignment grades to determine his course grade. He knows what he is doing because he gets ninety's or hundreds on his daily work."
same pressure as when they have to perform in a restricted time frame for a musical solo or a big game. The weekly tests determine what a student has mastered through daily practice. The daily homework only reflects what they have temporarily memorized as they have access to information in the book not available on tests. Answers are provided for the odd numbered problems and some students quickly learn to "back-peddle." This phenomenon occurs when the student looks at a problem and does not have the foggiest idea of how to work the problem. So they go to the answers and after seeing the answer to that particular problem, suddenly recall how to solve the problem. Later in the week, when they take the test, there are no answers to look up preventing them from "back-peddling" through to the correct solution. As with anything, there are always exceptions that justify the rule. However, just because one parent says their child did any one or all of the above, and had no trouble with their math, does not mean you should let your child attempt it. That parent might not have told you that (1) their child encountered extreme difficulty when they reached Saxon Algebra 2, and even more difficulty with the Saxon Advanced Mathematics textbook, or (2) they had switched curriculum after experiencing difficulty in Saxon Algebra 1, or (3) their child had to take a non-credit remedial college algebra course when they enrolled at the university or college because they had received a low score on their required math entrance examination. ********************************************* For those readers who do not have a copy of my book, please read my February 2010 news article for information that will help you select the correct level and edition of John Saxon's math books. These editions will remain excellent math textbooks for several more decades. If your child is already experiencing difficulty in one of the Saxon series math books, and you need to find a workable solution, please email me at: art.reed@usingsaxon.com. Or feel free to call me any weekday during normal business hours at (580) 234-0064 (CST). In next month's issue, I will cover:
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